Talula Bloodroses 
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(2/20/01 8:13 pm)
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What is expected of you on a raid
Revised for RD
With more and more people on Prexus getting to raiding level, the planes will become
more and more crowded. I would recommend all in need of items from Fear or Hate
attend not only all guild raids, but use the Prexus raid calendar to get on other people's
raids as well.
Without exception, all the RD people you see in full planar gear have attened every plane
raid they could find regardless of who was running it. Because of the calendaring
process (which is a good thing--without it RD would NEVER get to raid) there just is
not enough availability of the planes to get us in there more often. But if you look
even at RD raids they are usually about 1/2 non-RD anyway. This same goes for
about any raid--there are always room for pickups.
So don't be shy, if you want to go to the planes hit these raid leaders up. You may
have to do it several times, but you will get on. Remember raid leaders give
preference to people they know and people that work well with others and help the
raid the most, so it will get easier as you go--as your personal rep spreads among
the non-RD raid leaders.
Good raid ettiquette can make the difference in whether you are asked back to
another raid. Remember, your conduct on a raid, or in any group, reflects on the
entire guild.
Here are some tips for good raid ettiquette when trying to get on a raid...
When trying to get on:
1) Make your request formal and polite...take some time with it. Don't just /tell
a_raid_leader_00 "I want to come". Something like, "Pardon me, sir (or ma'am) I
understand you are leading Hate this evening and I was wishing to offer my services."
2) Never tell the raid leader in your request to join *what* you need from the
plane--like, "Pardon me, can I come with you? All I need is the legs." Don't mention
what you need, only that you want to come. Raid leaders get a big red flag up in
their head when they see you asking about loot before you are even up there. It tells
them that you might be trouble later if a drop is awarded to someone else. Raid
leaders wil normally anounce the general rules for how loot is handled before the raid
(class-random, merit, and exceptions included).
3) Stay at the rally point (for Hate this is traditionally Sro) and stay visible. Make
occasional jokes and relaxed, lighthearted comments over ooc to show the raid leader
that you are still there. Don't go for long periods AFK in case you are called for a
group or asked by the raid leader to go get supplies.
4) Offer your help where you can: For Hate, for instance, if you are an inky, watch
for someone to say they need hate stones and offer to go get them if needed.
5) *Don't* pester the raid leader: Once you have put in your request, assume that
the leader has your name written down. The raid leader is in tell hell when running a
raid and continual requests for whether or not you have a slot can get quite
irritating--even to the point of losing your spot if the leader is in an exceptionally foul
mood.
6) Say thanks, or be gracious: Once you hear your name called send the raid leader a
simple tell saying, "Thanks!" If the raid leader finishes calling groups and you are not
in the mix by that time, tell them, "No room for me?" He will likely say something to
the effect of, "No, Im sorry."
In this case simply say, "No worries. Good luck up there. I'll catch you next time."
Raid leaders pay close attention to people's repsonses to not being picked. And if you
handle yourself well, even when you don't go, you are much more likely to be on their
next one.
Once up there:
1) Don't whine: Deaths are going to happen in the Planes, maybe several times. how
you handle getting killed is important. No one wants a whiner on their raid.
2) Follow orders: The raid leader's word is law on a raid. If he tells you do to
something just do it, without hesitation.
3) NO LOOT WHINING: Absolutely imperative. You never know what the raid leader
may have done behind the scenes to make the raid happen. Let's say there is you, a
level 50 rogue, and a level 47 rogue and the raid leader awards the 47 a piece of
armor without even a random roll. This is the raid leader's perrogative and should
never be questioned. That level 47 rogue may well actually be the wizard that ported
you all up there--enticed by the raid leader to do so with the promise of the first
armor drop for his rogue. This is only one of many side deals a raid leader might make
to make the raid happen and get you all up there.
Most commonly you will see a raid leader shout, "ClassX send me tells now for DropY!"
In this case all you do is send a tell saying only, "I'm in please." nothing more.
If it's not you that wins that piece, simply congradulate the winner over ooc and
move on. "I'm in" and "Congradulations!" are the only thing a Phoenix should ever say
about raid loot. Well, of course, "THANK YOU" is what we all want to be saying but
you can't count on that.
4) Never talk to the puller: The pull team is extremely busy and is pulling the plane in
the fastest, safest way they can. Never request pulls.
5) Never complain about drop rates. Raid leaders are hypersensitive to this.
Ulitmately every raid leader wants everyone to come away with something, but that
is rare (REALLY rare). Raid leaders have no control over what mobs are up there to
pull, or what they drop. Even commenting over ooc, "Damn where are all the Clerics?"
sets the raid leader on edge as well as the pull team.
6) KSing: This is a sticky point. You don't go to the planes for exp. If exp is what you
are after, Sebilis and Chardok are open 24 hours. The raid leader may have groups
set up for kill speed or safety and so one group may get EVERY kill for the entire raid.
Never whine about exp. And LIKEWISE, if you are in the KS team, keep it quiet.
Shouting about how proud you are that your team got the kill AGAIN erodes the
morale of the rest of the raid and may cause the raid leader to split up your group.
7) Stay Alert: Raids can go long and the thing that kills more people than anything is
someone not paying attention. One person out of position or not paying attention
can wipe the raid out. Watch for orders in battle and comply with them immediately.
This is especially important when you see, "Pull it back!" or "Get behind me!"
Have fun, make jokes: Once the raid is rolling people will relax and start to joke
around. Don't be afraid to join in. Having a good attitued and displaying that good
attitude through lighthearted comments elevates the morale of the raid overall.
Careful not to run at the mouth though. :-)
10) Stay the distance: When you join a raid you have made a commitment to stay as
long as you can and help everyone get their goodies. I see way too often--for
example in Fear--that the MOMENT the last gorgon dies, half the druids, suddenly
and simultaneously get called away because their apartment is on fire. That goes for
any class. Bailing as soon as your mobs are killed will ensure you are not invited back.
9) At the end of the raid, simply thank the raid leader for having you along.
Sometimes you're nothing but meat...
Edited by: Talula Bloodroses at: 2/20/01 11:35:44 pm
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